<TITLE>07. Par -</TITLE>L-10-2 Well then, I tried to hold it off just as long as I could without expressing either way. Well, I begin to study what their ideas was, and what their separations was, and what made them separated; and I found that two of the great groups: one of them was called Jesus Only, and the other one was called Assemblies of God. They were called out or separated on the count of the issue of water baptism, one using "Father, Son, Holy Ghost," and the other using "Jesus' Name."
Well, I looked, and on both sides there were great men, servants of God. And I thought, "O God, if I could see all them emerge into--just go ahead and have--but do not just draw their lines and saying, 'We won't fellowship one with another.'" But I found out in this the evil spirit had got among them and had caused hatred and malice over issues that had come among them. I thought, "That's just exactly as good as the devil wants. That is just what he wants. As long as your guns are trained on one another, he doesn't have to fight a lick." And I... And so then finally it come to a showdown, and that showdown was at Seattle, Washington, about 1946.

L-10-4 And one morning I was brought to the hotel lobby (something like this) with a breakfast of some ministers, and I had to talk to two main men. And one of them was Dr. Ness. I suppose you Assemblies of God brethren remember him; it was the northwestern territory: a great man, smart, scholar, and he represented the Assemblies of God. And then Dr. Scism of the United Pentecostal Church, I guess you United Pentecostal brethren remember him. He was also of the northwestern territories up there, that he was over them and the districts up there. Well, these two men met, and I was to be brought before them, because the--the edges was getting sharp, and it was cutting at me from every way.
And I thought, "Well, what must I do? What can I do?"

L-10-6 Now... "Well," they said, "Well, you must take sides with one or the other. If you're going to go with the Jesus' Name, you have to be Jesus' Name; and if you go with the Assemblies of God, you have to leave away from the Jesus' Name and be Assemblies of God, or so forth." It come to a place where I had to make a showing of some sort.
I prayed much that morning 'fore going down. I said, "God, help me, because there's two great men. There's thousands of servants, and You have sent me out here with a ministry, and they're both Your servants, and should I throw what little influence I have to one organization when it's fighting the other one?" See? "I--I just can't feel right in doing that. I do not think that it would be the will of Christ for me to do it." I said, "God help me and give me something to do, or give me something to say. And then I had no one. I just had to stand there, just the Lord Jesus and I that morning.

L-11-2 Well, the great debate come up: "What are you going to do? What--what decision you're going to make?"
I said, "My decision has already been made, that... My decision is to stand between both of you and join neither organization, and say, with arms around both of you, 'We are brethren.' (See, see?), 'We are brethren.'" See? And I said, "I have tried to read all the books that I could, how this come up, what was called this new issue, and how they separated themselves, and how that this one begin this way and that way"; and I said, "In arguments between you," I said, "that's the same thing that broke up the Pentecostal move on the day--after Pentecost; they begin to argue among one another," and I said, "the thing separates again." I said, "Is there a possibility that there could be a medium between you--you brethren? Is there anything that--that could stand?"
Well, they wouldn't open their mouth on that, because it was very sharp. You know, about fifteen, twenty years ago how it was, because the one group had just pulled from the other, and there was contention very much.


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